Members
Present: Lou Fraulo (
First
let the record show that the programs went better than expected at two venues,
one of which was not even in existence when the programs were developed. The
committee wishes to thank all those involved with the meets: the Officials, the
Site Workers, the Coaches, Athletes, and Spectators for their cooperation and
understanding throughout this post-Princeton adjustment. The feedback has been
tremendously positive for both sites. None of this would have been possible
without the cooperation and hard work of everyone involved.
1. Correspondence
A. Rick Steeg in an e-mail dated
Response:
1. What other facilities exist in the state that we overlooked? 2.
B. William Eisenring of USAFTNJ in an e-mail
dated
Response:
The committee thought that would be a step backwards, especially now that
there are many existing 200 meter tracks available.
C. Al-Tariq A. Dunson, in a letter dated
Response:
Both interesting ideas, and hope people will continue to strive for their
accomplishments. Again, though, the committee and more than likely the track
community, would rather pursue 200 meter track facilities. Continental Airlines
Arena could not accommodate a 200 meter track, and more than likely, neither
will the
D. Hugh McDermott, in an e-mail dated
Response:
His complaint was legitimate and the problem should not have happened. In
meetings with
E. Tom McCafferty, in an e-mail dated
Response:
Coaches concern has grounds.
F. Chris Threston, in an e-mail dated
1.
Could the distance medley lead off the relay order of events instead of
the shuttle hurdles?
2.
The seeding lists for both meets should include the where and when so
coaches can check them.
3.
Could coaching boxes for the High Jump an Shot Put be established at
4.
There were too many schools in Group I. Could the Classification be
revised so there are fewer schools in this group?
5.
Could the 200 be put back in the Individual meet, along with the relays?
6.
Is there really a need now to not allow distance runners to finish their
races, now that time factor is not as pressing as it was in
7.
Combine the Meet of Champions into one meet.
Response:
All of these items will be discussed later in the meeting.
G. John Pontes, in an e-mail, dated
Response:
This incident never should have taken place. Only the referee can stop an
athlete from participating. The official should have brought this to the
attention of the referee and not taken it about him/herself to remove the
athlete. Unfortunately, the damage was done and there was nothing meet manage
could do but apologize and try to remind all officials that the meet referee
alone has this kind of authority. The problem of spikes will be discussed
later.
H. Ellen Schack, a parent of a 55 meter
hurdler in the Meet of Champions, in an e-mail wanted to know why her daughter
did not make the finals in that event, when she clearly ran a trial time better
than three of the girls who were selected as finalists.
Response:
This came about because of a clerking error. In the Group Meet, where seeding
in the 55m and 55m HH, is based on times that are so close with 60 to 70
contestants in each event [which calls for many heats], the formula for
advancing from trials to finals the eight fastest runners advance. This
requires by rule that all of the best seeds are in the same (usually last)
heat. However, in the Meet of Champions, where there will be a maximum of five
heats, and where the seed times are drawn from the Group Meet, this formula
would likely result in what most would call a duplicate final. Therefore, the
formula for advancing is the winners followed by the next fastest times to
qualify the 8 finalists. This requires that the contestants be placed in heats
using the serpentine method (i.e. the best seed in Heat 1, the 2nd
best in Heat 2, etc). Unfortunately, the clerks did not do this. They clerked
both events as they had done in the Group Meets. The 55m, fortunately, had the
8 fastest qualify into the final and the error went unnoticed. That was not the
case with the 55m HH. The winners of heat 1, 2 were significantly slower than
the fifth finisher in heat 4 and another finisher in heat 3. This error was not
noticed until after the 800m had bee run. The referee made an attempt to contact
the coaches involved, but they had already gone for the day. Again, an
unfortunate event that should not have happened.
2. Seeding
Keeping in mind that many of the rules written for
this year were written for
a. All seeds must be from the current season.
(Last season times are not acceptable.)
b. No outdoor seeds or relay splits will be
accepted.
c. Seeds must have been done on 200m (or less)
tracks at the correct distances. No converted times (example: a converted 1,500 meter time is not
acceptable for the 1,600 meters)
d. The 55m dash, 55m HH, and 400m dash must be
F.A.T. only. No hand times for these events will be accepted. Hand times for
800m and up will be accepted and converted to F.A. T.
e. Only the top twelve times will be posted.
When Lou Fraulo receives a time faster than those listed, he will remove the
slowest time so that only the top 12 will show. These top 12 times will contain
the meet where and date when the performance was made.
3. Spikes
Spikes will be checked at both facilities using the
method the New York Armory employs. All shoes will be inspected at a spikes
table and tagged. Athletes found to be using spiked shoes not properly tagged
will be fined $150.00, payable to the facility for the damage done by spikes
that are too long and/or not the correct style (pyramid spikes only).
4.
Starting Heights in the High Jump and
Pole Vault
The committee says many coaches dont like not knowing
the starting heights for these events in the group meets. The standards are
very low and leave the impression that the starting heights will be also.
Therefore the starting heights will be established next year based on the performances
of this year:
2008 Starting Heights:
Group |
I |
II |
III |
IV |
Boys HJ |
56 |
58 |
510 |
510 |
Boys PV |
100 |
100 |
106 |
110 |
Girls HJ |
46 |
48 |
48 |
410 |
Girls PV |
76 |
80 |
86 |
86 |
The starting heights for the Relays will remain the
same.
5. Meet format changes.
The committee discussed the possibilities of changing
the winter program to the same format used outdoors, namely, a sectional,
followed by a group meet, and then the Meet of Champions.
The committee also discussed establishing separate non-public
A and B sections, as is done in the outdoors. These suggestions were made
because of the growing numbers of schools participating in the programs (see
Mr. Threstons 4th proposal
above.) If these format changes were accepted, they would carry with them the
same basic entry rules now used outdoors, i.e. no standards and three entries
per event. These changes would have to be approved by the NJSIAA Program Review
Committee, whose approval would then require the approval of the entire NJSIAA
Executive Committee. Before proceeding to these committees, the schools
presently offering winter track would be polled to see how they would feel
about this format change. These changes are not going to be proposed for 2008,
but for 2009. A detailed survey will be drawn up to ascertain whether or not
these changes should be pursued by the Winter Track Committee.
6.
2008 Format
The committee is making the assumption that the Jersey
City Armory the Toms River Indoor Sports Complex will be available for
corresponding dates as last year.
1. Relays Site
Dates and times:
Almost all of the feed back was to keep the separate
meets and to keep the sites if the
Order of Events: 1. Distance
Medley
2.
Shuttle Hurdles
3.
4x200m
4.
4x800m
5.
Sprint Medley
6.
4x400
Shot Put (Boys followed by Girls in Group I)
High Jump (Starting Heights 50 for boys, 40 for
girls with next height being raised 4 boys starting first in Group I)
Pole Vault (
Spikes: 1/8 pyramids Checked and tagged at the
door.
2. Group Meets Site: John Bennett Indoor Sports Complex,
Dates and times:
Committee felt that the time structure for the relays
would work well for the Group Meets.
Order of Events: Group I 1. 1600 meter Run - Boys
1600
meter Run - Girls
2. 55 meter Dash Trials Boys
55
meter Dash Trials Girls
3. 55 meter High Hurdles Trials Boys
55
meter High Hurdles Trials - Girls
4. 800 Meter Run Boys
800
Meter Run Girls
5. 55 meter Dash Finals Boys
55
meter Dash Finals Girls
6. 55 meter High Hurdles Final Boys
55
meter High Hurdles Final Girls
7. 400 meter Dash Boys
400
meter Dash Girls
8. 3200 meter Run Boys
3200
meter Run Girls
9. 4x400 meter Relay Boys
10.
4x400 meter Relay Girls
Shot
Boys followed by Girls
High
Jump Boys Followed by Girls
Pole
Vault Girls followed by Boys
Groups II,
III and IV 1. 1600 meter Run
2.
55 meter Dash Trials
3. 55 meter High Hurdle Trials
4.
800 meter Run
5. 55 meter Dash Final
6. 55 meter High Hurdles Final
7. 400 meter Dash
8.
3200 meter Run
9. 4x400 meter Relay
Toms River Intermediate East will not be used for
shot. Gym and hallways available for warm-ups
Starting Blocks supplied by
FOR
EXAMPLE: Group I Meet
the Boys 1600, the Boys Shot, Boys High Jump and the Girls Pole Vault will be
closed at 3:40 p.m. so that these events will start promptly at the meet
starting time of
3. Meet of Champions John Bennett Indoor
Sports Complex,
Date of Meet:
Order of Events: 1. 1600 meter Run - Boys
1600
meter Run - Girls
2. 55 meter Dash Trials Boys
55
meter Dash Trials Girls
3. 55 meter High Hurdles Trials Boys
55
meter High Hurdles Trials - Girls
4. 800 Meter Run Boys
800
Meter Run Girls
5. 55 meter Dash Finals Boys
55
meter Dash Finals Girls
6. 55 meter High Hurdles Final Boys
55
meter High Hurdles Final Girls
7. 400 meter Dash Boys
400
meter Dash Girls
8. 3200 meter Run Boys
3200
meter Run Girls
9. 4x400 meter Relay Boys
10.
4x400 meter Relay Girls
Shot
Boys followed by Girls
High
Jump Boys Followed by Girls
Pole
Vault Girls followed by Boys
Once again, the Winter Track Committee would like to
thank everyone, especially the hosts of these meets for their outstanding
cooperation and support, without which this Post-Princeton transition into a
very successful winter program would not have been possible. We sincerely hope
that the above changes will make the program even more successful and enjoyable
by all involved.
The committee was adjourned at approximately
Submitted by
Don Danser
Assistant Director
NJSIAA